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El Toro Marine Corp Air Station to Become Housing Development

by Steve
Saturday, March 12, 2005

Last month Lennar Homes bought the land at the El Toro Marine Base. Looks like it's all going to become homes.

I suppose that's good for the area. I used to live near there, in Lake Forest. We moved in back when the town was still called "El Toro". When the town voted on incorporation, it also voted to change the name to Lake Forest.

Lake Forest was the name of a small housing development built around an artificial lake, located along Lake Forest boulevard. For whatever reason, the folks who lived there didn't want the stigma of having to live in "El Toro". The name "El Toro" conjured up images of military housing and military families. And God forbid, would any of the tight-wads in Lake Forest want to be associated with that.

You gotta remember, the El Toro cityhood movement started back in the 1980's, before the Persian Gulf War started, before the terrorist attacks on the USA, and before supporting our troops was fashionable.

And then folks in Newport Beach wanted to convert El Toro Marine Base into a commercial airport. They tried to convince us and everyone else that would it be in our best interest to build a commercial airhub in our backyard. But gee, folks in Newport Beach already have a commercial airhub in their backyard. Why would they want to build one in all the way out in El Toro? Hmmm.

However, I think it would be great if the County along with Lennar Homes could build a "Marine Corp Memorial" within the new development that preserves the memory of what was there. My wife's grandfather installed plumbing at the Marine Base. The construction of that entire Marine Base brought workers and their families from all over, and that started a new generation of native Californians. The memory of that ought to be preserved there, somewhere.

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15 Comments:

  • Its a crime to have 3,400 being built in OC. We don't need it.
    I wonder how the "Great Park" turned into another housing project. Looks like Lennar Homes is in bed with the Irvine Company!! What about the added traffic?? Where is the water going to come from?? California has been in a drought for years!!
    This whole thing reeks of greed. It's a shame to see what is going on here.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at April 07, 2005 1:22 PM  


  • Back when the community of Lake Forest was being built, "Lake Forest Blvd" was named Cañada, in reference to the Rancho Cañada de Los Alisos lands that "Lake Forest" was once part of. It was one of the original ranch roads. The Lake Forest community, when it was built in the eucalyptus grove, was surrounded 100% by the town of El Toro. There's a lot of history behind the name El Toro - much farther back than the military base, so it's a shame that the new families that moved in were ignorant of that.

    m.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at April 07, 2005 8:33 PM  


  • I was shocked when my dad told me that the El Toro Marine Base was being closed. I immediately thought about El Toro Marine School, which I attended from kindergarten to third grade in the late eighties and early nineties. It will continue to be the best school that I've ever attended. The community and the people were awesome. We were friends with everyone there. I hope everyone associated with El Toro will keep it in their memories for as long as they can.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at July 03, 2005 9:50 AM  


  • It is a shame that there isn't more open land in Orange County but I guess that happens in a place that has the 5th largest economy in the WORLD. It is obviously a desireable place to live which is exactly why there are going to be 3,400 new homes built. I know that Lennar is pegged as the "bad guy" here and that is a shame - the other major player in the bidding process was Standard Pacific Homes; if they had won would they be the target of your disgust?. My suggestion to you is simple - if you want open space and no traffic move to Wyoming or something. I was just there and it is beautiful without traffic. We all pay a price to live in such a desireable location here and this is one of them.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at July 26, 2005 4:37 PM  


  • For anyone interested in keeping the memory of El Toro Alive, the past residents (base kids) have started a yahoo group in an attempt to reunite those who attended ETMS and/or lived in base housing. If you would like to be part of the group and reconnect with those you grew up with, check us out at El Toro Base Kids on Yahoo groups.

    By Anonymous Greg Le Noue, at October 05, 2005 11:28 AM  


  • I lived in El Toro Marine Corp housing, and remember attending University High School from 75-77 during my Sophmore and Junior year. I remember Irvine High School being the most modern school of its time. I remember wrestling against El Toro High School, and noticed that their school structure was identical to ours. I remember working at the small MC grocery store, which was located next to the entrance next to base housing. Our housing was a little older, but they had new housing developement for enlisted just blocks away. I made alot of friends, and my life was really busy. I miss my friends there, and the whole MC Base El Toro experience.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at August 07, 2006 6:06 AM  


  • On a recent trip to SoCal I had the opportunity to visit the El Toro site and take some pics of some of the complex for my son. As I was describing the barracks and what I could see of the rest I told him that I thought they were or had built a golf course there. I also took a pic of the entrance sign with the developers sign in front of it. It struck me as sad until my son told me that no matter who has it or what happens to it, a soldier already paid for it.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at October 22, 2006 6:03 PM  


  • My memories of the base are from the late 1950's. I went to grammar school there for 3 years, had friends, lived on the daily on resorvior hill playing cowboys and Indians, catching Horny Toads, tadpolesand building forts. Every Saturday our mother would take us to the country store on the corner of El Toro Road and Trabuco Road so we could spend our .25 cents "in the woods". It was heart breaking this past weekend to see all the homes I knew as a great part of my memories gone knowing OC can't leave any land untouched or empty. Yes, we will be moving on since I've raised my family in Lake Forest (El Toro) and now they can deal with the traffic, congestion, more homes we really don't need, buildings on every corner for their children to grow up not knowing what imagination, woods and what "Orange" county was best known for - the "Orange" groves. Torn down to build homes and stores! It was the end of en era and everything about it's demise was kept very low key. I wish I had known about the "party" given so I could say one last farewell but my never answered email requesting to go on base one last time to visit and take pictures never came. My father is still alive and we have many memories from the base. One thing we all agreed on this past week was, "You can tear down the base to create more homes and stores but you can never take away the picture we hold close to our hearts". Those days when all that was required of you was to be home by dark or dinner - whichever came first! My sisters, brother, friends and I use to walk from Wherry Housing tract to the corner of Trabuco and Bake (whick wasn't there in those days), play all day in the woods (orange trees), make a fort in the ditch, get dirty as all get out and walk home through the watermelon fields so we could clean up before dinner. So tell me, "Why is it we need more houses and more of the same stores on every corner?" So your kids can walk around hooked up to speakers while your hooked up to a Blue Tooth? I wonder which was healthier? Farewell El Toro - it was a fun dance while it lasted.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at March 19, 2007 1:57 PM  


  • I didn't grow up in El Toro, never went to school there either. My memories as a kid growing up here in Southern California and always going to the base with my family in itself was an experience I'll always remember. Going down the road lined with Eucalyptus trees and turning onto the street where all the airplanes were that would greet you was amazing. I remember shopping there throughout the year, going to lunch in the cafeteria style lines. And remembering Christmas there most of all, trying to get all the purchases before a certain time in the morning to get an even better discount. I miss El Toro, miss it from the drive there to the drive home. Does anyone have pictures of El Toro Marine base? I can't seem to find any.

    Thanks for everything El Toro.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at April 09, 2007 12:45 PM  


  • I was a part ofthe El Toro community for 12 years. I attended El Toro Marine School (which you can still see if you look left traveling north on Irvine Blvd), played in the youth soccer program, and had many adventures on and around cactus hill. That base was my home, and it is hard to look at it today. I wouldn't call it a shame, but I am still saddened that the old neighborhood is "GONE"!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at May 04, 2007 1:06 PM  


  • My father was stationed at El Toro during the war with VFSB 232 when the group came home from the Canal. He was also stationed there in the early 60's when we were in school in Santa Ana. I have great memories of our stay.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at May 23, 2007 3:43 PM  


  • I lived in Tustin, CA from the time I was 2 til I was 23. We were only a mile or two down Irvine Blvd from the El Toro Marine Base. Many springtimes we spent sitting on our roofs watching the air shows they had annually and always was the opportunity to ride our bikes to see the variety of planes and events up close. It used to be farms all the way there and a very safe place to ride, you could even park on the side of the road to watch for free! Now that street is lined with apartments, condominiums and shopping centers. Its an era ended and its unfortunate that newcomers to this area will never get the experiance the sort of freedoms I did as a child.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at May 30, 2007 2:09 PM  


  • I attended El Toro Marine school in the late eighties and early nineties. I live in Irvine and have for th past 15 years when I moved from El Toro. I went over to the school this past week. It's not fenced up or boarded off. It was the creepiest sight. There is still artwork in the windows, computers in the classrooms. One classroom had the words" We'll always remember. Class of 1986" written on the chalk Board. It's as if everyone was there one day and gone the next.

    By Blogger Michelle, at July 16, 2007 2:31 PM  


  • When I worked at both Beverage Sales and the Bread and Milk Store; and as a truck driver supplying both with soda and beer, on the base in the 1960's (which was used as the Marine Corp. Vietnam ship-out stop off spot), there was always a rumor of s secret underground base there. One day while on a work break, I was standing outside the Bread & Milk Store (by the housing gate) and witnessed a C-5A going into a hanger, the doors closed; and 10 minutes later, the doors reopened, with no C-5A inside. If the base has been sold for redevelopment, then either the gov. filled in the secret base area; or, it never existed; and my eyes played a trick on me. We'll see what the developer finds (some trace of an underground facility, or not).

    Anyone out there having a simular experience?

    BTW.... I lived near the base; and wanted the base to be converted to an international airport. Getting to the then Orange County (now John Wayne) Airport was too much hassle.

    By Blogger Don_Kirk, at July 23, 2007 1:28 PM  


  • If only those old hags in Seizure World, I mean Leisure World, had kept their mouths shut about that awful horrible FREEDOM CAUSING jet noise perhaps we would still be living on one of the best military bases in the US. I cried when we had to leave El Toro. We lived in the on base housing to the right of the main gate fr a year. That base rocked.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at November 02, 2007 10:29 AM  


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